01/28/2009

Folks, with yesterday’s message we (I) skipped message 351, so there is no message 351. Gary

 

 

Correction to Jerry Williams message posted with message 350.

 

Folks, I miss read Jerry’s message thinking, in my mind, that he had been back to Dunseith many times since 1954. I sent Jerry a message telling him I was going to edit out the word ‘not’ in his message. I told him if it was wrong, I’d post a correction. Well I was wrong, so I’m posting the correction below. Gary

 

Jerry’s reply:
 
I have only been back to Dunseith a few times after I Graduated in 1954. I guess that is the way I should have composed the message. Oh well you did good to catch a potential mistake. Thanks.
 
Jerry
 
Jerry’s original message:
 
I graduated with Viola with the class of 1954, a graduating class of 8, I think the smallest to ever graduate from good old DHS. Anyway I have not been back to Dunseith many times since 1954 myself and Viola is one of those people that I have not seen in now 55 years. I don’t know if our class is going to get together for a 55 year reunion this summer or not but it would be fun to get to see her again. How about it class of “54” are we going to have a class reunion this summer?

 

 

 

Reply from Bob Lykins (DHS teacher – mid 60’s):

 

Herzlich glueckwunch zum Geburtstag, Allen!

Speaking about collecting Social Security. A little bit of information for those retireing from Federal Service. I started collecting full Social Security benefits when I turned 65. My 10 year old son (at the time) started collecting an amount equal to half of my benefits because he was under 18 and (get this) my ex-wife, because we were married for more than ten years, also began collecting benefits amounting to 50% of my benefit. My current wife doesn’t get anything which is a bone contention on occasion. When I retired at age 68, because I am under the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) The Social Security Windfall Act applied to me as it does to all Federal employees under CSRS. As a result, just when we really need full Social Security benefits when we retire, they are cut, in some cases, by as much as 75-80%. The rationale being that we have been working all these years and paying into another retirement plan and not paying in to Social Security. I wonder if this also applies to people in private business and industry? It has taken the Social Security Administration a full year to catch up to me as I have been receiving full benefits during my first year of retirement and not eligible to do so. I lucked out in that they only cut me about 45% but I have to pay back what they overpaid me this past year. Not a problem since I knew this was going to happen and with each monthly payment dropped 50% into a savings account. In other words I had a nice loan for a year from Social Security. My son and ex-wife also have to pay back. Good luck on them getting money back from the ex. It’s no wonder that outfit is going broke.

Again, Allen, Happy Birthday.

Bob Lykins

 

Yes Bob, you fell into the social security off set rule when you started collecting your federal retirement. For me the bulk of my Social Security entitlement comes from my Army reserve years. In my case the off set rule I feel is fare, because I did not pay that much into the system to get my qualifying quarters. I don’t necessarily like it, but I can see the rational behind the rule for folks like me. It’s not a fare rule for those that had substantial years social security before going to work for the government. This rule only applies to those hired into federal service before 1984. To maximize my retirement, I learned the Government, Reserve and Social Security laws well. Gary